Mountain bikers vs motor bikers

Money from this goes back into the trails in terms of matinance and so forth. However, last weekend when I went to my cottage I learned that mountain bikers are attempting to kick motor bikers off of the trails. DO they pay to use the trails, NO! if they are caught on the trail by a patrole man unlicenced to they get fined for trusspassing? NO! Hell alot of them just like to come for a weekend here and there.

 

They don’t even care who as setup the system and perfected it through proper managment and allocation of funds to keep up the trails they just want the trails for them selves, screw the people like me that have been using and paying for them my hole life. If you ask me Mountian bikers could learn alot from motor bikers about trail matainance how to optain funds to put towards the trails. As well moto b. could learn from moun. bikers to. But work together, both groups like to use trails and enjoy the woods.

 

And belive me both groups hate to see the distruction of trails, as well as being kicked off of trails. I have put way more money in by Motor bike than any of you guys could ever invest on one bike and I plan on using that bike for along time. I also plan on Moutain Biking for along time as well. I love them both and won’t easily give up ither sport, but it really bugs me to see people who generaly enjoy a similar past time come to blows. The area I talked about is Howdenvalle Ont. It is in the Bruce Peninsula in Ont. A larger town is Wiarton. or Owen Sound. There is miles and miles of trails networking all across the Peninsula and is wonderfull to bike. Stop in at Collingwood as well. Great biking.

Tour on mountain bikes

I am 5′ 4″ and I ride a 13″ Jamis Diablo with front suspension (Rock Shox Indy XC). The bike is the right size for me and I know that Jamis also does an 11″ version. This is, I think, mostly sold as a trials bike. I am not sure how easy it would be to find a Jamis supplier in the UK as it is an American make and I have never seen an ad for it in Mountain Biking UK or in Mountain Bike World. Kona and Voodoo also do a small size bike, and they are both available in the UK. Their frames seem to be measured slightly differently to normal and their 16″ frame is actually like anybody else’s 14″. Therefore, a 14″ Kona is probably like a 12″.

 

The Kona and Voodoo bikes have a very steeply sloping top tube, which makes them seem even smaller. If you want to go really upmarket and spend a bit more, the Fat Chance Yo Betty is made specifically for smaller riders, with geometry designed for a small bike, instead of being just a cut down version of a bigger bike. Good luck, I hope you can find something that fits and will let you get your suspension fork. I remember placing my foot further back on the pedal to stop my foot slipping – far enough back in fact that the area of greatest pressure I experience when accelerating whilst standing is over the pedal spindle. Also, one needs to keep the pedal almost normal to the pedalling force otherwise the foot will slip. I believe this is achieved by the greater ankling amplitude supported by Nick. Thus, I think that there are two factors which contribute to using a higher saddle position when not using toeclips or clipless pedals. Firstly, the foot is further back on the pedal effectively lengthening the leg, and secondly, the greater ankling required to > stop the foot from slipping requires a higher saddle position.

 

It would be very interesting to make a study of leg extension comparing these cases. I contest that it would be the This would explain why I feel most natural with the saddle-pedal distance on my old Molton noticably greater than that on my road or mountain bikes (both of which have clipless pedals). I keep telling myself to try lowering the saddle but I know it will feel cramped. Problem is it doesn’t fit well with the old safety advice about being able to put both feet on the ground while staying in the saddle of a town bike

Mountain bikes and mountaineering

here are lots of compromises that I’ve never see tried, that would go a long way towards making all parties happy. I would have no problem planning my rides to take advantage of times when singletrack sections were open to cyclists. And, any hikers that abhorred the thought of bicycles intruding on their wilderness nirvana could plan accordingly. But this “We own the trails. We have the right to go everywhere, you have the right to go nowhere except where we give you permission” attitude is utter B.S. You don’t “compromise” with people like that, because you are just delaying the inevitable. Stop pretending the Sierra Club and mountain biking are on the same side, because we most definitely are not. Final thought (I promise):

 

IMO, people ride on illegal trails because EVERYTHING except fireroads is closed to bikes. When everything is illegal, nothing is. Isn’t Mike Vandeman at PacBell? Is there something in the drinking water there that results in extremism? What an organization! As a cyclist, I’m supposed to overlook the hikers’ beer cans, cigarette butts, and unleashed dogs I see on the trails (because hikers must *never* be stereotyped as anything but the most pristine ideal) Given that any person that can walk is “hiker,” I’m afraid your generalization of hikers reflects more on our population as a whole. I don’t know any SC member who litters; in fact, most I know rant and rave if you leave an apple core behind (me being one of them). If you think “environmentalists” are friends of mountain biking you are kidding yourself. I seriously doubt there would be _any_ public land for you to ride on if it hadn’t been for the past work of environmentalists. Sounds like you’re trying to extrapolate the ditto-head dogma of Rush. If you don’t give a shit about the environment, then you’re right, you and I will have little common ground on environmental issues. IMO, the only way trails will reopen to bicycles is if mountain bikers push to establish day use fees at parks, regional open spaces, etc.

 

as the sole source of park land funding. Then, park administrators and land use managers (like any other government agency) would become dependent on the revenue, and would have an incentive to attract mountain bikers. Or, more hikers, by shutting MTBers out altogether. Don’t get me wrong — I’ve seen more than my share of irresponsible mountain bikers, laughing in the parking lot about how they sent hikers diving off the trails. But I’ve also seen enough garbage, and been chased by enough dogs, to know that the “other side” could stand to spend a little more time concentrating on their own problems.

Bicycle mountain bikes and its features

The wave of the future is in pogo sticks! Recent advances in increased dynamic performance in metal alloy tortion leaf springs has at last made it possible to achieve maximum comfort in a velocity suited to the young executive on the rise. And, get this: you’ll never have a flat tire on one of these vertical screamers, no siree. And, if you’re truly a “new way of thinking” thinker, you may be interested in doing what Others of your station in life are doing nowadays – combining the sheer excitement of pogoing with the added attraction of donning kangaroo shoes! Remember those things?

 

Thought they were gone forever? Well, cheer up, Mr. Weepy Face – they’re BACK! And they’re better and brighter than ever! Due to the same miracle design that has made pogo fever a widespread epidemic, kangaroo shoes have bounced into the Nineties, looming larger than Life! But don’t do what I did, and forget to REMOVE your kangaroo shoes before boarding your Stick! Ha ha: Yikes, what a scare I gave myself! And then I woke up. I need some input on Mountain Bikes. I am looking to buy a quality bike, but need to know what names and styles to go with. I had a Cannondale, but resently had it snagged. I know there are alot of you that are up on the mountain bike scene, so please drop me a line, and give me your opinion, and suggestions.

Mountain Bikes on Golf course instead of cart

The tires on a bike are much thinner than a golf cart and therefore your weight is distributed over a much smaller area. This will increase marking of the greens and fairways unless you insist on bikes staying on paved paths. Besides, it sounds a bit awkward. Do you use a cart in tow? Do you lay the bike down or use a kick stand? as anyone ever used a bike to pull their clubs around the course? What is the reaaction of members or the pro? Do they do any damage to the course?

 

I have seen pics of euroopean golfers doing it . Thanks The tires on a bike are much thinner than a golf cart and therefore your weight is distributed over a much smaller area. This will increase marking of the greens and fairways unless you insist on bikes staying on paved paths. Besides, it sounds a bit awkward. Do you use a cart in tow? Do you lay the bike down or use a kick stand? Allowing mountain bikes on the course would invariably temp many bikers to ride on the grass, where it will leave really bad marks. May this idea never hatch. Kobus Reyneke, Pro Golf Net Guide The Mining Company – “Take back the Net!”

Comfort bikes

es, there are. They’re called “comfort bikes.” A couple of friends bought a couple a couple of years ago. Heh heh. Couple. Anyway, Jen and I were going to do the same, but wound up buying mountain bikes instead. For me, the suspension helps with comfort on long rides (20+ miles). I got a Trek 200 with a 21″ frame. Jen got a Trek 100. She liked the feel of that one better than the 200.

 

They were around 300-350. Very nice bikes, but not professional or “serious” mountain bikes. That sounds close to what I’m looking for. Nothing serious, but something that can handle a little dirt and a few bumps now and then. Front shocks would be ideal, but I don’t care to pay for the full suspension. I feel like I’ll get enough challenge on the hilly country roads here in VA, but once I get into better shape it would be good to have a capable mountain bike.

 

I guess there’s nothing preventing me from putting on street tires and saving the knobby tires for a future date, is there? I don’t know Raleigh, but in terms Giant: Largest seller of bikes everywhere other than the US, where Trek reigns supreme. IIRC, Giant makes the frames for MOST of the bikes you’ll be looking at, including Trek. My friend has a Giant Comfort-Bike, and I have ridden it for long distances and found it very comfortable (duh), and easy to ride.

Mountain bikes on the West – East highland

It may have been the ACU (AutoCycle Union). There was some concern some years back with what was termed ‘green laneing’ where trail motorcycles were run along unsurfaced lanes and were basically churning them up. The problem was not caused by those who did genuinely care but rather the idiots who could rush out, buy any sort of motorcross bike and charge along the green lanes willy nilly. There were far too many of them and not enough people who cared. The result was that motorbikes were banned from many lanes.

 

As a rather interesting comparison, in Scotland they have what is called the Scottish 6 Day Trail, an internation trail bike competition held every year at Ben Nevis. It’s been running for about 50 years now and the environmental impact is rather surprisingly nil and the venue continues quite happily. Meanwhile further down the glen there are great scars gouged out by mountain bikes on the West – East highland walk as detailed by Jimmie MacGregor.

 

The difference is, the mountain bikers don’t pay to repair the damage they cause, the motorcyclists in the 6 Day Trail do and bring in local contractors to sort out any damage they have caused to the land. Mountain bikes (only) should be taxed and the money given to the various bodies responsible for the upkeep of these ways to pay for the damage caused. Another route to try might be the Peak District National park, as they have been implementing a ‘no moutain bikes’ policy recently to keep them off foot paths and trails. Wonder if this is what triggered the Mountain Bike mags ‘research’?

Various brands of mountain bikes

I can’t be bothered to reply in detail, and most people don’t want to read it again, so I’ll just presume you know what I am talking about. 1. Pigs for truffles still implies growing pigs for food. 2. Feeding a dog a completely vegetarian diet is one unnatural way to live for a dog. Fair enough, it’s possible to feed a dog veggie muck, but IT HAS A CARNIVORE DIGESTION AND NEEDS ANIMALS.

 

Why not appreciate that, bozo. (this is uk.misc by the way: you may need to turn up the irony a bit) 3. Mountain bikes in Colorado? My, we have gone off at a tangent. I think you need to look at what. People use moountain bikes (including myself) in mountainous regions (inc. Pyrenees and Scotland in my case)

I would continue to do so regardless of eating animals or not. I still maintain that your notion of wilderness and its increased use following the formation of a veggie nation is utter hogwash. I am still laughing. You have a thoroughly out of touch understanding of what people need and are prepared to do for their leisure. Most people don’t like wilderness. That is why we live in groups: to keep out the nasty meat eaters.

Basic mountain bikes

I am looking for a basic, inexpensive mountain bike to ride around town. I would rather not pay for the cost and trouble that come with suspensions. So far I only found the Trek 3500 (MSRP ~$250). There are no such things in the Gary Fisher and Specialized catalogs. Do you know similar bikes from other manufacturers? There are very few rigid fork mountain bikes on the market these days. You found one of the few. Your idea of avoiding the front suspension is wise.

 

Inexpensive suspension forks are mushy, heavy, and are not needed for city riding. But if your goal is around town riding, you probably should be looking at comfort/hybrid/city bikes. They give you the more upright position, and low gears of a mountain bike but with narrower, less knobby tires that have less rolling resistance. A trek 7100, specialized crossroads or similar bike might be a candidate. If these “comfort” models may have a too upright position for your tastes you could get the bike shop to swap out a stem with less rise.

 

Having owned both mountain and hybrids, I can’t imagine why anyone would want to slog around on knobby, low pressure tires when riding on pavement. Finally, if you are set on a mountain bike want a real steal, you can look around for one from 4-5 years back or so when more low end bikes still had rigid forks.”not needed” … maybe … but they sure make the ride a *lot* smoother. My TREK 830 “mountain” bike (steel framed, no suspension) is down for repair and I’ve been commuting on a cheap aluminium framed “department store” Mongoose with front suspension and seatpost suspension. It’s a *world* of difference between the two. I’ve bought a suspension seatpost for the TREK but it’s still not ready to go back into service. Just because you ride in the “city” does not mean the surface is nice. There is a stretch of road that I ride that has been patched, dug up, patched again, dug up, patched agan … and so on .. most of this to the side of the road where bikes ride.

Specialized bikes

They aren’t very common any more on new bikes, but I’m fairly sure 6-speed freehub bodies are still available for both SunTour and Shimano. You might have to buy a 7-speed rear hub and replace the freehub body, unless you buy a 7-speed MicroDrive hub, in which case you just replace the MicroDrive double lockring cog with a non-MD single lockring cog. I’d go with Phil Wood or Bullseye and a Shimano Duraace or Suntour Winner Pro freewheel. The problem with freehubs is that if you break the freewheel you have to throw out the whole hub.

 

This was true of earlier models, but is not true of current freehubs from major manufacturers. The freehub body is bolted to the hub body, and can be replaced very easily. his is not strictly true if you use a suspension stem instead of a suspension fork. You probably don’t want suspension forks anyway because of the mainteneance hassles, but I’ve been assured that suspension stems tend to be more reliable because of fewer moving parts.

 

(I did hear of the a Frankenstem’s spring falling out once, but compared to the number of times I’ve seen RockShox in the shop for topping up with oil or just plain broken, that’s very little) The new micro casset stuff has supposedly improved wheel dish. Really? How? It’s still the same # of cogs, right? Cool stuff, but avoid the rapid fire or rapid fire plus junk. Thumb shifters are more reliable, less expensive, and weigh less. Grip shifters, I’ve heard, are pretty good. I don’t remember if they offer a friction option, but if they do, then I don’t see why they can’t be used on a touring bike. My brother has RapidFailure on his MTB, and they broke within the first 50 miles. I certainly would not use them for any serious riding.